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Please help me securing my house

Hello,

I’m posting with a throwaway account for security purposes. Sorry for my english.

I just bought a new house for me to live with my wife and baby and I’m concerned about security.

Please first of all let me provide you with some details about the house:

1) It’s located in a relatively safe neighborhood within a private community with controlled entrance (guards that register all people entering the community). I’m located in a developing country anyway so security is always a concern, no matter where you live.

2) The backyard area is located basically next to an empty hill. Although it provides with a nice view, this area is my weakest point and the area that I would like to secure most. Please see the following picture for you to have an idea where the house is located: https://imgur.com/cEs2k3c

3) In the backyard, you access the house through 2 big sliding windows. Please look at the picture: https://imgur.com/cEDaGra (one for living/dinning room and the other for main room)

4) Hill-facing, we have this and a concrete wall next to that fence: https://imgur.com/HtPXu32

5) Basic floor plan: https://imgur.com/bkqrJTd

Now my requirements, but please feel free to correct me or provide me with better suggestions, as I’m not an expert. You do consider that I’m quite techy/geek.

1) No monthly monitoring service

2) I’m getting into home automation, so any automation-based would be great.

3) Consider that cost-wise, all prices in the US is almost x2 for me where I’m located. So, while I’m willing to spend all necessary to protect my family, consider that cost is a factor.

4) My main goal is not having my family to confront possible thieves. I dont have costly assets that could be stoled and I don-t care about them. I just want to avoid as much as possible having thieves when my family is at home. Consider that the house will be alone for the most part of the day.

5) Tech-wise: I would like:

* Big lights in the backyard that turns on when it detects motion. I think I would also need for the immediate outside of the backyard? where the hill is located.

* Motion sensors

* Sirens. (loud and house-wide)

* The ability to arm and disarm alarm by geo localization and also by doing it manually.

* Protections in the fence and concrete wall

* Security cameras and fake cameras.

* Having the ability to receive messages at iOS when motion is detected or the alarm fires off

* Anything that you would do and recommend if this were your house and you were to protect your family.

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11 Thoughts to “Please help me securing my house”

  1. billcheese5

    From the reading I’ve done (eventually going to get a home security system once I move somewhere more permanent), it looks like Abode could suit your needs. You’ll have to read the specifics, but I know one thing people like about them is how well it integrates with home automation. I think there’s an option with no monthly fee where you can just monitor it on your phone/computer too

    1. MontanaXVI

      Absolutely. I have been an owner of the system since I was a backer on Kickstarter and it has been nothing short of great.

      1. lfaire

        Do you guys use geofencing to arm and disarm the alarm ? What if my mobile or my mobile wife run out of battery ? How do I disarm the alarm ? What If i want grant access to a person who goes once a week to clean the house?

        Also, do you have any reference of Abode working in a different country (not US) ?

        1. MontanaXVI

          I just use my Alexa skill to arm and disarm most of the time. My wife uses the key fob and app. We do not use the geofencing. The basic system comes with a single key fob and you can order additional ones or a secondary keypad to place somewhere in the house.

          You can name devices in the setup so you’ll know what device disabled and enabled the system. For instance if my wife comes home from work and uses her fob it shows in the alerts that system was disabled by “wife’s keys” or whatever name you assign the device.

  2. grandstaff

    Security window film on those big windows seems like a good idea. It is a clear plastic film that covers the inside of your window and [prevents entry even if the window is hit very hard](https://youtu.be/GAG54AcvRjY?t=5m7s). For maximum results, it should be [connected to the window frame](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_xCfa34oI) somehow.

    This will slow down an intruder significantly, allowing more time for the noise of the alarm to get attention and for you and your family to move to a secure location.

    I’m considering adding an outdoor siren to my setup to help make the alarm even more noticeable. They also make them with strobe lights built in to help draw visual attention to the source of the noise.

    1. lfaire

      Thank you !

      I hadn’t thought that an intruder could break such a big window, but I think it’s a good idea. I think they would try to break the lock instead and not the whole window.

      The outdoor you’re considering is fired off through automation ? It comes with a sensor ? What I’m thinking is that i don’t want to an alarm like this to fire off for every single outdoor motion as it could result in tons of false alarms but activate through some rules like window break or manually… not sure

      1. ibizan

        Posting from your other account?

  3. fuckyourpopcorn87

    Just a few things to think about, not saying cameras are bad, but keep in mind especially in a developing country, that cameras and all these things that are visible defenses mean 1. That you habe the money to afford it and 2. That you have something in your house worth protecting. This may be your family to you, but to an intruder this usually means electronics and if you are setting your house uo for automation there slim chance you don’t have many things that a robber doesn’t want. I will break this into two categories, home invasions and robberies.

    A home invasion is classified by the fact that your family is inside of the house. This is the more risky of the situations and your worst case scenario. For a home invasion i recommend having a safe room, it can be any room you want, i reccomend a bedroom connected to a bathroom but everyone needs to be able to get to it quickly. All you need for an effective safe room is a door that you would use for an external door. Normally your bedroom door is light and made of weak wood. You are going to replace that with a metal or heavy wooden door, preferably metal, that has no glass. Now, your regular door frame is not very strong, we have two things we are going to do to make that door 100x stronger. First, you will replace your 1 inch screws that hold the door notch nit the door knob, with 3 inch screws. These screws will reach into the actual beam and past the flimsy door frame. This alone will make your door much stronger, but the icing on the cake will be next.
    They sell these plates that you drill into the floor and the have a metal plate that slides in and hold the bottom of the door into place, you want to install it on thr floor directly under the doorknob. This door will be so strong a SWAT team wouldn’t want to deal with it. You said you do not want your family to have to confront a threat, this is your best bet in that regard to buy them time until local security and authorities arive. If you can get firearms there then i would reccomend it, but other than that if they do get through the door give your family the knowledge and tools to make a final stand. This id your worst case scenario and something that should be planned for and not ignored. Now lets move to how to keep from getting anywhere close to that point.

    Deterrence
    Deterrence is going to be different depending on the intentions of the person seeking unauthorized entry into your home. I’ll split this into two parts for time sake, they either want your stuff, or they want you.

    Someone who wants your tv has to have a plan go get it in and out. If a robber can’t use your door then it’s going to be hard to steal things in a hurry and not worth his time as much. Remember the 3 inch screws trick i told you above? We are going to do that to every external door that swings open. Also we are going to put deadbolts on those doors that require a key to be open from both sides. Now this can make a fire very dangerous if you don’t keep a key stashed beside the door, which i would reccomend. Now you have a lot of glass and that will take no time to get through and looks big enough to carry anything i would want to out of there. You should think of all of that glass as a big OPEN door, it will not keep out anyone. So what do we do here? We reinforce the back yard it overlooks. Now a wooden fence is not hard to climb and will block the view of your neighbors being able to by chance see someone break into your house. My recommendation for that would be natural fences, if you live in a desert climate i have seen fences made from cacti grown to intertwine and make a fence, obviously that is a specific situation though. I would find any thorny bush that grows in your area and plant them under any ground floor windows, making then awful to try to enter through. Walk your perimeter and see if there is any way you could get to a second floor window, and cut that off as well. Idk what to really tell you for those sliding glass doors other than to put up an outside chainlink fence with barbedwire. Those are a huge weak spot. You would need an alarm system with break sensors on the glass or something to make your back yard very hard to enter.

    Now if you are a wealthy person in a developing country and believe you could be at risk for anything from ransom to rape, ie they want YOU not your stuff, this is a different ballgame. Your main thing is to fly under the radar, no posting anything flashy online and the like. Other than that, get ro know your neighbors, especially if anyone is someone who doesn’t leave the house much, nosy neighbors can be a pain in your ass or they can be your savior during a robbery when you are away.

    1. reyfeo

      Thank you for such high quality answer.

      > First, you will replace your 1 inch screws that hold the door notch nit the door knob, with 3 inch screws.

      Ok

      > They sell these plates that you drill into the floor and the have a metal plate that slides in and hold the bottom of the door into place, you want to install it on thr floor directly under the doorknob.

      Do you have any example or photo ? I’m not sure to understand.

      > Remember the 3 inch screws trick i told you above? We are going to do that to every external door that swings open.

      Ok

      > Idk what to really tell you for those sliding glass doors other than to put up an outside chainlink fence with barbedwire.

      Thank you. If you see closer, outside perimeter already have electric wire above the fence.

      > wealthy person in a developing country and believe you could be at risk for anything from ransom to rape, ie they want YOU not your stuff

      This is not the case. I’m not wealthy and the country is not that bad.

      1. fuckyourpopcorn87

        Olay i found the name, it is called nightlock, there are other options buy this is the design that made me interested as it is quick and not an eyesore. This attaches to the floor and holds the corner of the door, you can check out some videos online of people testing the strength of it. Their website looks like it has stronger options even now that i’m actually looking at it. https://nightlock.com

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